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	<title>Comments on: Incentivized Membership &#8211; Certainly not a Charitable Act&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: ethan</title>
		<link>http://www.techsplosive.com/2009/06/membership-incentives/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback Mike.  I appreciate what you have to say and the &quot;corrections&quot; you made to my statements.  

While I certainly did imply the fact that some use incentives to &quot;cover up&quot; their &quot;inferior&quot; feature set, that of course is based solely on my own opinion - as there are some feature sets from some websites that I prefer whereas other people have different preferences.  While the brand managers and engineers work build the best product in their eyes, it may not turn out to be my favorite - hence the opinionated views.

I think one of the problems you run into (perhaps not fatwallet or BigCrumbs) but the more social-networking oriented ones is that niche people you serve (those interested in getting &quot;paid&quot; for something they would do anyway - or something for &quot;nothing&quot;) are perhaps much less likely to make it worth the advertisers while.  (This comment is more aimed at the gather network, as KiwiBox does have some interesting forms of advertising rather than standard banners etc.)

Once again, thanks for the thoughts Mike.

Speak soon,

-Ethan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback Mike.  I appreciate what you have to say and the &#8220;corrections&#8221; you made to my statements.  </p>
<p>While I certainly did imply the fact that some use incentives to &#8220;cover up&#8221; their &#8220;inferior&#8221; feature set, that of course is based solely on my own opinion &#8211; as there are some feature sets from some websites that I prefer whereas other people have different preferences.  While the brand managers and engineers work build the best product in their eyes, it may not turn out to be my favorite &#8211; hence the opinionated views.</p>
<p>I think one of the problems you run into (perhaps not fatwallet or BigCrumbs) but the more social-networking oriented ones is that niche people you serve (those interested in getting &#8220;paid&#8221; for something they would do anyway &#8211; or something for &#8220;nothing&#8221;) are perhaps much less likely to make it worth the advertisers while.  (This comment is more aimed at the gather network, as KiwiBox does have some interesting forms of advertising rather than standard banners etc.)</p>
<p>Once again, thanks for the thoughts Mike.</p>
<p>Speak soon,</p>
<p>-Ethan</p>
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		<title>By: KiwiboxMike</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Mike, the founder and COO of Kiwibox.com. I enjoyed reading your article Ethan, and I think you made a lot of great points. Just one to clarify, I feel a lot of sites offer rewards/points/incentives to users, because there is a large and powerful subset of the online community that gravitates towards this type of site, and sites like ours (Kiwibox.com), MyPoints, FatWallet, etc attempt to fill that nitch. And one other thing to clarify, we do not incentivize users to join, they join because they want to be a part of a site where they earn things for doing what they do on other sites without any reward. Sort of semantics/language, but just wanted to clarify.

That being said, we spend countless weeks/months/years developing new features, and attempting to make our sites the most user friendly, enjoyable site we possibly can, and we do not rest on our laurels assuming that points and incentives will be the saving grace, it is simply another feature of our sites.

Any other thoughts or questions I would be happy to entertain,
Thanks to all,
Mike
Mike@Kiwibox.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Mike, the founder and COO of Kiwibox.com. I enjoyed reading your article Ethan, and I think you made a lot of great points. Just one to clarify, I feel a lot of sites offer rewards/points/incentives to users, because there is a large and powerful subset of the online community that gravitates towards this type of site, and sites like ours (Kiwibox.com), MyPoints, FatWallet, etc attempt to fill that nitch. And one other thing to clarify, we do not incentivize users to join, they join because they want to be a part of a site where they earn things for doing what they do on other sites without any reward. Sort of semantics/language, but just wanted to clarify.</p>
<p>That being said, we spend countless weeks/months/years developing new features, and attempting to make our sites the most user friendly, enjoyable site we possibly can, and we do not rest on our laurels assuming that points and incentives will be the saving grace, it is simply another feature of our sites.</p>
<p>Any other thoughts or questions I would be happy to entertain,<br />
Thanks to all,<br />
Mike<br />
<a href="mailto:Mike@Kiwibox.net">Mike@Kiwibox.net</a></p>
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